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    WASHINGTON - The United States can expect a terrorist attack using nuclear or more likely biological weapons before 2013, reports a bipartisan commission in a study being briefed Tuesday to Vice President-elect Joe Biden. It suggests the Obama administration bolster efforts to counter and prepare for germ warfare by terrorists.

    "Our margin of safety is shrinking, not growing," states the report, obtained by The Associated Press. It is scheduled to be publicly released Wednesday.

    The commission is also encouraging the new White House to appoint one official on the National Security Council to exclusively coordinate U.S. intelligence and foreign policy on combating the spread of nuclear and biological weapons.
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    The report of the Commission on the Prevention of WMD Proliferation and Terrorism, led by former Sens. Bob Graham of Florida and Jim Talent of Missouri, acknowledges that terrorist groups still lack the needed scientific and technical ability to make weapons out of pathogens or nuclear bombs. But it warns that gap can be easily overcome, if terrorists find scientists willing to share or sell their know-how.

    "The United States should be less concerned that terrorists will become biologists and far more concerned that biologists will become terrorists," the report states.

    More likely than nuclear
    The commission believes biological weapons are more likely to be obtained and used before nuclear or radioactive weapons because nuclear facilities are more carefully guarded. Civilian laboratories with potentially dangerous pathogens abound, however, and could easily be compromised.

    "The biological threat is greater than the nuclear; the acquisition of deadly pathogens, and their weaponization and dissemination in aerosol form, would entail fewer technical hurdles than the theft or production of weapons-grade uranium or plutonium and its assembly into an improvised nuclear device," states the report.

    It notes that the U.S. government's counterproliferation activities have been geared toward preventing nuclear terrorism. The commission recommends the prevention of biological terrorism be made a higher priority.

    Study chairman Graham said anthrax remains the most likely biological weapon. However, he told the AP that contagious diseases "? like the flu strain that killed 40 million at the beginning of the 20th century "? are looming threats. That virus has been recreated in scientific labs, and there remains no inoculation to protect against it if is stolen and released.

    Graham said the threat of a terrorist attack using nuclear or biological weapons is growing "not because we have not done positive things but because adversaries are moving at an even faster pace to increase their access" to those materials.

    He noted last week's rampage by a small group of gunmen in Mumbai.

    "If those people had had access to a biological or nuclear weapon they would have multiplied by orders of magnitude the deaths they could have inflicted," he said.

    'Time is not our ally'
    Al-Qaida remains the only terrorist group judged to be actively intent on conducting a nuclear attack against the United States, the report notes. It is not yet capable of building such a weapon and has yet to obtain one. But that could change if a nuclear weapons engineer or scientist were recruited to al-Qaida's cause, the report warns.

    The report says the potential nexus of terrorism, nuclear and biological weapons is especially acute in Pakistan.

    "Were one to map terrorism and weapons of mass destruction today, all roads would intersect in Pakistan," the report states.

    In fact, commission members were forced to cancel their trip to Pakistan this fall. The Islamabad Marriott Hotel that commission members were to stay in was blown up by terrorist bombs just hours before they were to check in.

    "We think time is not our ally. The (United States) needs to move with a sense of urgency," Graham said.
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    Re: Pretty Scary Stuff Here

    At some point were going to have to say the hell with being nice to everyone and fight. I really wish we'd close our border and go full scale in the "War on Terror". We must eliminate the Radical Muslims.
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    Re: Pretty Scary Stuff Here

    we are [censored]

    that would be the official hammer hitting the unofficial nail already on this countrys coffin........square on the head
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    Re: Pretty Scary Stuff Here

    Scary [censored].

    Whatever means necessary to stop that should be used. No questions asked. No second guessing.

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    Re: Pretty Scary Stuff Here

    Close our border and go full scale? Pretty impossible feat and IMO wouldn't do much. IF they are smart enough to make a new strain of some virus or whatever, they more than likely won't be coming in from Mexico or Canada. And the country isn't going to stop all international flights for that matter. Terrorist are in almost every country and no doubt in my mind here already. So a full scale attack is unimaginable, we don't have the man power to invade all the countries looking for terrorist - hell we can't even find Osama in one or two.

    I am more worried about Kimmy over there hiring scientist rather than these 'radical muslims' who are barely smart enough to fire a gun . Making a new strain of the mentioned isn't an easy task and what we have is guarded HEAVILY I am sure. I'm not saying it is impossible, anything could happen, just think its more of a scare tactic than anything.

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    Re: Pretty Scary Stuff Here

    Scare tactic? Maybe. Maybe make us all more cognizant of what is happening around us.

    But - another terrorist attack on the U.S. IS imminent.

    And no, don't anybody even say b/c of Obama or that Obama won't do anything about it. This would happen regardless of who is running this place.

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    Re: Pretty Scary Stuff Here

    I am scared to death of a chemical of biological attack, just not putting much emphasis into the "War of Terror" BS. Iran and North Korea scare me a million times more than radical muslims. They are leaders of armies and are a lot more capable of an attack like that then the Taliban or someone.

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    Re: Pretty Scary Stuff Here

    I know people ripped on Biden (my self included) but i really do trust him and think he'll do a decent job... anything is better than [richard] "the gunman" Cheney.
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    Re: Pretty Scary Stuff Here

    Keeping Robert Gates around will be a big help also,and definitely a step in the right direction as far as this goes.

    I never underestimate Al Qaeda, we've already seen what they are capable of. North Korea and such scares me, but they don't seem to have the determination and resolve of Al Qaeda.

    And Russia scares the immortal [censored] outta me still. I don't trust those bastards.

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    Re: Pretty Scary Stuff Here

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: duckmeat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

    And Russia scares the immortal [censored] outta me still. I don't trust those bastards. </div></div>
    I'm right there with you on that one . People try to down play Russia but they're the one we should really be worried about.Until Putin is dead i'll be scared of Russia
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